| #1 Dewd (200.241.254.51)[17248] |
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#1 ;-)
I think we should stop this someday ! =) |
#2  (ncache1.ford.com)[17249] |
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| No, the battle to be first is an inbred part of our nature. And I lost the battle again! I alt tabbed away as I hit reload and lost my chance. |
| #3 TheRubberDucky (dfiatx100-044.dsl.gtei.net)[17250] |
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| Nice br. Third Comment > First comment |
| #4 WilliamWC3 (huru27.wuh.wustl.edu)[17251] |
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| Well thats really cool and all but does anyone have any comments with regards to, you know, my report. |
| #5 Warphead (johnny.bath.ac.uk)[17252] |
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Doubt it was the real Zileas. He's a real ponce =D
Didn't like the big bold script. Looked ugly. The pics were really good though. |
| #6 Zak'Mael (205.168.7.27)[17253] |
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| Nice report... I really do wonder if it IS the real Zileas. If it is, wow. If it isn't, fnarkle. BTW, next person who gloats about the first comment, is showing to the world their true sexuality. :-) |
| #7 TheRubberDucky (dfiatx100-044.dsl.gtei.net)[17255] |
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| 10.0 all the way baby |
| #8 TheRubberDucky (dfiatx100-044.dsl.gtei.net)[17256] |
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| Did I say that? It sounded gay =[ |
| #9 [MrFurious] (pega.globetrotter.net)[17257] |
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Isn't it impossible to get someone else's name? If his login is Zileas then Zileas he must be. That said, I know for a fact that Zileas has pretty much dropped out of SC. He is rather concentrating on designing games.
But, the anonymity we get when we log on to B.net works both ways.
I am just glad I suck so much that no one would show up in nohunters with my handle hehe...
come to think of it I hate coming in to nohunters with this handle... doh!
I can't believe this, this is supposed to be about Zileas but I have managed to turn it to me... I must get a life and stop worrying about my not winning...
Anyways, Zileas is god. the only reason I am half-way decent with toss is because his strat guide has replaced the bible on my nightstand (which is sign #654 that you are playing to much Starcraft).
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| #10 Omnipresent (ketsproxyn1.kde.state.ky.us)[17262] |
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It's not the real zileas. Two scenarios are possible.
a: zileas' account got deleted cuz he didn't log on bnet for too long (remember he doesn't really play anymore)
b: On bnet the capital i, I, looks about the same as the lower case l, so you can imitate the name..
Either way I doubt zileas logs on and plays random games anymore |
| #11 [MrFurious] (pega.globetrotter.net)[17265] |
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Its like in Braveheart when William Wallace shows up on the battlefield and peeps say it can't be him cause he doesn't spit fire from his butt.
If Zileas wants to come back alot of people will be doubting its him. |
| #12 T_Mac (on-tor-blr-a58-01-394.idirect.com)[17266] |
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| Your first lesson was wrong, kinda.....It'll only enter the bunker if the bunkers at full health, otherwise, it'll repair it. |
| #13 [5th]kefka (client-151-198-137-131.bellatlantic.net)[17268] |
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lol my gawd thats so damn funny what krebs did... omg... krebs beezed da shit=D good report also i havent read tho whole thing yet but.. i will i jus wanted to see the pics first.. i am hoping to br some games soon since i finally got ACDsee32 =D well peace i beeZed in Nohunters
LatEz
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#14  (staff-8.ahnet.net)[17269] |
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| Ohh.. Thanks for that T_Mac. Hmm.. It might be Zileas, but I doubt it highly.. |
| #15 Dabel (r67h91.res.gatech.edu)[17270] |
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| The text in pics is hard to read - might wanna watch that on next one. And some of your effects got in way of expressing what the picture should have. Took too much effort in some to see what's going on. And what's up with Ricky Retardo size font lately? Bahhh.. I haven't read it, those are things i noticed that you might want to work on. It looks nice though. |
| #16 Wr@th (ss01.co.us.ibm.com)[17271] |
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Nice report. Actually I probably played with the same guy last night. Used Zileas's name. He randomed to Toss on Dire and did a very nice reaver drop. Normally that would make me doubt it was him, but he never commented on his name so it could be.
BTW I have seen Zileas play before, and this guy last nights micro was real good. I looked like a just about perfect build for the drop timing wise. It might be him. |
| #17 shockwave (exchange1.sensable.com)[17275] |
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Hey guys, I can just email Zileas and ask if he's started playing SC again :-b. He used to stop by nohunters once in a while before. As far as I know, though, didn't he always use "executorzileas" or some other name? I never saw him under plain "Zileas", but then again I've only met the master a few times on b.net. I've played a couple of games with him as Zerg, he is very very very good with that race.
Anyway, whether or not it was him, it was a good BR and very intense. Lots of expansions falling, the uphill siege was nice and usually I'll try to stick up a bunker there ASAP too (if you lose the bunker, big deal it's just 100/0 and it distracts things from firing at your tanks). I dunno why there wasn't more scourge used, especially since after the intiial SV shows up, you pretty much KNOW that any air attack force you bring is going to get irradiated to patoots.
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| #18 VRAM1974 (depth.martinet.com)[17276] |
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A couple of reasons I doubt it is Zileas. Like many clans such as Feared and X'Ds etc have moved to Kali when they want to play SC (for obvious reasons), I doubt Zileas would bother with lag infested "po' man's SC" on Lagnet.
Another reason is the fact that his strats seemed lacking. I dunno since I didn't watch it, but don't all these 1600+ players roll over you with giant macro including Godly micro?
Another thing is I thought Zileas considered Toss sacred and played nothing else.
One more thing is that anyone like Grrrr... and Zileas and Agent probably smurf when they do go on Lagnet, and far be it from them wanting to reveal who they are, they would probably pick an unassuming name like "VRAM1974" and play. j/k
I mean, these guys always get bombarded by questions from crap players so they probably don't want to be noticed when they do play. I mean, look at all the wankers who go on yahoo to play chess, whip out the big chess programs and call themselves Kasparov, G. I mean, do they think we're really gonna believe that A) It's Kas and B) He would announce himself that way, open for all kinds of doubt? |
| #19 Silver`Thunder / SOL999 (s40b62.wuh.wustl.edu)[17277] |
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I watched the game in WilliamWC3's room and I am really convinced it was Zileas. First of all, he seemed to know a lot about the actual Zileas. Additionally, his login was spelled like the real Zileas because when I checked stats on him it was the same as the guy who joined the game (6-1-0 at the time). Also, he played like a protoss player would, using lurkers very heavily. I think this is what an all toos player would do because lurkers are a good mass murder weapon like reavers and storm. So his style seemed like that of a protoss player. Remember, he wasnt playing a race he had much experience with and he also hasn't played in a long time so he was a little rusty. He said he was a 1300 with zerg and he was out of practice so maybe he played like a 1200 this game. At any rate, believe what you want to.
Kickin game report, Will. If you can't turbochobo the natural, reverse turbochobo the main!! |
| #20 JPaikman (huru59.wuh.wustl.edu)[17281] |
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Hi folks,
I guess its time for the roommate to chime in.
I don't know what you guys are thinking, but he did respond to my questions rather quickly - everything about the way he writes and comments is virtually identical to his strategy guide writing style.
In response to name, college, and location, he said:
"Tom Cadwell, MIT, Brookline, MA" which is true, true, and true, since the ZBT's have their house in Brookline, whereas MIT is located in Cambridge.
Additional comments after playing a 2v2 game in nohunters were "dragoons are too powerful and abusive" or something to that end. Verbatim off his post 1.04 analysis.
He also gave the correct e-mail address - zileas@mit.edu which is a valid address and is posted under Cadwell's name.
To Omnipresent's argument, the name is Zileas, with the lowercase i, as seen in the battle report. Look closely at the waiting for players box and the after-game chat.
Finally, the way he played with micro was quite clearly smart micro. His zergling control was quite nice, and eliminated quite a few marines with minimal loss in the early game. Every irradiated guardian and mutalisk was quickly whisked away.
Now, I did hear that Zileas's name was stolen during a server split, and that may be the reason why Zileas appears as ExecutorZileas in subsequent matches, but I don't know anything about that.
Additionally, the name Zileas has an account number very high on the list (3 million +). Or perhaps that this is the result of a name reset.
Either this was the real Zileas, OR it was a grand, and absolutely well done imposter. I'm inclined to believe the first conclusion, but you have your choice make.
Yours truly,
JPaikman
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| #21 JPaikman (huru59.wuh.wustl.edu)[17282] |
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Hi folks,
I guess its time for the roommate to chime in.
I don't know what you guys are thinking, but he did respond to my questions rather quickly - everything about the way he writes and comments is virtually identical to his strategy guide writing style.
In response to name, college, and location, he said:
"Tom Cadwell, MIT, Brookline, MA" which is true, true, and true, since the ZBT's have their house in Brookline, whereas MIT is located in Cambridge.
Additional comments after playing a 2v2 game in nohunters were "dragoons are too powerful and abusive" or something to that end. Verbatim off his post 1.04 analysis.
He also gave the correct e-mail address - zileas@mit.edu which is a valid address and is posted under Cadwell's name.
To Omnipresent's argument, the name is Zileas, with the lowercase i, as seen in the battle report. Look closely at the waiting for players box and the after-game chat.
Finally, the way he played with micro was quite clearly smart micro. His zergling control was quite nice, and eliminated quite a few marines with minimal loss in the early game. Every irradiated guardian and mutalisk was quickly whisked away.
Now, I did hear that Zileas's name was stolen during a server split, and that may be the reason why Zileas appears as ExecutorZileas in subsequent matches, but I don't know anything about that.
Additionally, the name Zileas has an account number very high on the list (3 million +). Or perhaps that this is the result of a name reset.
Either this was the real Zileas, OR it was a grand, and absolutely well done imposter. I'm inclined to believe the first conclusion, but you have your choice make.
Yours truly,
JPaikman
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| #22 Von Doom (d3o943.telia.com)[17283] |
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Heyah!!
Wow that REPORT! was astounding..
While everyone keeps chatting away wheter it was Zileas or no, I´m just gonna say that the report was as must 10 as a 10 ever has been!!
This is in the same level as YRM´s reports, though he had more players and FFA, but still the writing and the pictures was just excellent..
There was small funny pics here and there that lighted up the day and one could laugh some, and then get back to the reading.. I dunno what to say..
Wow..
So everyone stop whining about Zileas and give this WilliamWC3 the credits he should have!!
10!!
YEEEAAHH BABY YEAAH!!
(sorry)
Von Doom |
| #23 AnderKryst (edjproxy2.edwardjones.com)[17287] |
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On the Zileas thread:
It's quite possible he is an impersonator...
There's proabably a ton of interviews of him, which you can pull off all the personal info for him.
Last I heard, Zil played under ExecutorZileas (previously stated) because someone stole his account during the splits of...1.01/1.02/1.03 (whenever they were)...otherwise known as the first huge problem of Battle.net.
It's possible, but given the nature of B.net, one always doubts it is the real thing. Now if the real Zileas steps forward, well, that's a different story then. :) |
| #24 Headless_Clown (cr647412-a.flfrd1.on.wave.home.com)[17288] |
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I have only one thing to say. I lost to Zileas before while he was playing under ExecutorZileas. Not only did i lose but I lost a 2on1 against him as Terran on Snowbound with me and my (well, somewhat newbiesh) partner toss, Zileas slaughtered him with cloaked wraiths that were somehow 2/1 while my sairs were 0/0 :P . I'm pretty sure that was him, he could pick off my obs with seemingly very little effort and then rape my sairs. Well, that's all i really have to say about Zileas. He was a nice guy and all, giving me vision at the end and telling me he was trying something different with terran (ie dual armory after factory, and pretty much only turrets for drop defense). He said he wasn't very good with terran but Zileas' idea of not being very good is exponentially bigger than my idea of being good. Anyway, whether it was him or not, cool report and some interesting rumours are flying because of it =)
Lurking in the sideshow,
Zilea....i mean, Headless_Clown |
| #25 WilliamWC3 (huru27.wuh.wustl.edu)[17289] |
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Ok authors turn:
Alright, Von Doom should not only be made a rater but he
should be given 3 votes due to his excellent judgement. Seriously you have no idea how uplifting your praise is. Thankyou very much these reports take many hours (like 10) and it frankly isn't worth it if no one appreciates it.
Next about Zileas, my opinion was stated in the report. You all have interesting opinions but its really not why I did the report. He was a nice guy who played a good game
of starcraft.
To people who commented on the fonts / pics: I kind of liked my script font but I can see how it could be annoying.
Also some of the titles are hard to read. I'm trying to work on that. I was up very late last night writing this (in fact I'm still up) and I probably didn't use the best judgement. Thankyou for the comments everyone.
Oh yeah and by the way no stupid jpegs yet in the comment section, lets keep it that way.
-WC3 |
| #26 JPaikman (huru59.wuh.wustl.edu)[17290] |
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Enough about the Zileas matter -
Now about the game and BR!
Thanks to Will for an incredible battle report which he
started writing just minutes after the game ended.
Anybody take notice to the rollover captions on the pictures? Pretty funny I'd say.
As to my play - some clarifications.
Blundering Bunker Battle Bullshit - I don't know how he saw that - but whatever - my micro sucks anyways -
Tricky Terran Tank Tactics - Part A - I thought this reverse turbochobo would at least take out the gas, knowing that Zileas was taking the 3 o'clock expansion, and piss off some hydras in the process. Additionally, if I had kept with it, I could have developed that reverse turbochobo some more - I might have taken out the counter coming as well as the man by routing my troops to the reverse turbochobo. Shockwave, I did put a bunker there with marines, just not close to the tank :-(.
Mistake #1 - not putting more tanks underneath the ledge
Mistake #2 - putting tank too close to the ledge
Mistake #3 - not building starport earlier to bring troops on top of the ledge to continue the push
Tricky Terran Tank Tactics Part B - I should have supported with more medarines and unsieged the tanks once he came. I should have built a turret also while my SCV there was bullshitting.
Melt in Your Mouth, Not in Your Hand - he just got lucky finding my turbochobo going to the 12 o'clock natural with mutalisks. Could have been a turning point, see that I could have shut down the 12 o'clock natural and the 3 o'clock main's gas production. Otherwise, the Mutaharass was more of an annoyance than anything.
Another critical point in the game was the destruction of my 6 o'clock main. Once this was out, I had no choice but to retreat and concentrate on rebuilding, while Zileas could expand with impunity and >naked< as well.
Evil Air Armada - by this time is was basically over unless I did something drastic to destroy his tech buildings. Unfortunately this was not to happen as I was constantly being occupied by the lurkers and the like. I comsatted and found a greater spire - trouble. Not having an armory sucked too. Without the ability to build valks or goliaths, I was screwed. A few irradiates later, the game was over as he just rolled into my 9 o'clock natural.
Anyways, this was a good game, and I was surprised to be playing better than I thought I would. A few less mistakes and perhaps this game would have been a little more competitive.
Once again, great BR, Will!
Yours Truly,
JPaikman |
| #27 Some dude on the street (cx110054-a.pwy1.sdca.home.com)[17295] |
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| The real Zileas uses the name: ExecutorZileas. You can see this if you go to battle.net/scc and look at the battle reports. They have his full name in the screenshots of the scores at the end of the game. |
| #28 JoLLy~TeAcuP<font color=red> (BR.COM TeaCup)<font color=black> (proxy3-external.[17303] |
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Jpakiman, omni was talking about the "l" in Zileas. On bnet it can be spelled ZIIeas which will look like ZiIeas but it will look normal on bnet fonts.
Some dude on the street, he also uses the nick Zileas. Go to SC.org and look at his profile. That websites show many profiles of practically all the famous players.
And my opinion. I do not think it is the real zileas. I just don't think so. The way he played in this game was not great at all altho he still killed Jpakiman cuz Pakiman sux. :) If his account was deleted, it probably would have been taken before he relogged cuz there are thousands of lamers out there that always want to make their nicks look like famous player's nicks.
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| #29 shockwave (exchange1.sensable.com)[17304] |
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Enough of this "Is he the real Zileas?" junk, I sent an email to his proper address and am waiting for a response. It is also NOT COOL posting his alias email address on this forum, you guys realize that everyone is going to write to that now and pester him about this game, yes? Hopefully he's discontinued that alias by now, and I'll kindly ask the BR admins to <b>remove that post from this thread</b>.
O.k., back to strats: One thing I find that works well is that when you're going for a cheesy strat (such as tanking from low ground or even the now-overused ledge turbo newbie), it may often be better to hold off until you have more forces to execute the cheesy strat. This way it becomes exponentially harder to counter. You can drop off 1 or 2 tanks to kill his refinary, but once you do that, he'll be able to immediately counter with whatever units he happens to have at hand. Try 4 tanks next time and then build your bunker up there. It's highly unlikely that he'll just happen to have enough forces to take out your tank. Likewise with turbo newbies: 1 tank + bunker isn't tough to take out, but delay just a BIT and drop 3 tanks and bunkers and you've got yourself an almost impenetrable siege. This isn't *always* the right thing to do, but it's something to bear in mind.
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| #30 JPaikman (huru59.wuh.wustl.edu)[17307] |
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Sounds good, shockwave. I'll try to keep that strat in mind next time.
On another note. Zileas's e-mail is listed on many different websites - his own website hosted by MIT, the Gamegurus website which the school of ass-kicking transfered too, and he announced his e-mail HIMSELF in nohunters. It's not like his e-mail address is secret, and it hasn't been bombarded hundreds of times before by others.
<otherwise for former CXers, ITS A NON-UNIQUE ARGUMENT.>
I won't defend it further, but if you think there is a critical problem, then have the webmaster strike it.
Its also obvious that his personal address is - ___________
but this is also found by typing in his name on the frontpage of the MIT website. Shockwave, you know that!
<ahh, the power of the web :-) so much info one can find about anyone - just try searching for me!>
BTW, I still don't understand the | argument. Doesn't a lowercase "i" mean a lowercase "i"???
Oh yeah, BR's and hearing other people's criticism and potential strategies are great for improving one's game. Everybody who wants to get a lot better should start reading this site, and playing in games that get BRed! Its free lessons courtesy of the SC community (as oppossed to Kain's auctioned lessons ;-))
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| #31 [MrFurious] (bha3-s39.mtl.colba.net)[17309] |
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Paikman, let me spell it out. If I type i in capital that makes I. This I in B.Ne font looks just like an l. so the l in Zileas could be an uppercase i. get it?
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| #32 [MrFurious] (bha3-s39.mtl.colba.net)[17311] |
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| Ok, with the fonts here, this might be confusing. The uppercase i looks just like a lower case L. there... |
| #33 Zileas (STARCRACK.MIT.EDU)[17312] |
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Yes its me. I suck at zerg. I'm trying to learn it, but its not a style of play I'm good at.... You all know my island game and micro game is strongest, and I think its safe to say that starcraft is far more power-build-and-rush than it used to be. I can kick people around on dire still as toss, and terran of course, and I can do fine on SMALL 2 player maps, but I just dont play zerg or large maps well at all, especially since my game isnt fine tuned right now.
Ive been playing recreationally a bit.. but not competitively. Somehow, these guys talked me into playing a game 1v1... I generally do 2v2s (and sometimes lose.. you know how public 2v2s are).
I no longer have the 40+ hours a week to play to stay "top notch", and play more like 10-15 a month.. but yes its me. You can confirm this by maling tcadwell@mit.edu or zileas@mit.edu
Zileas
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| #34 shockwave (exchange1.sensable.com)[17315] |
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| Heehee, so much for my comment about keeping his email addr private to do him a favor ;-). |
| #35 Mark^EPC (NYCMB108-01.splitrock.net)[17320] |
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| (STARCRACK.MIT.EDU) ????? |
| #36 MuLLay{Sky} (spider-wa052.proxy.aol.com)[17322] |
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<font color="red">Wow, it is the real Zileas! This kind of seems like a warm-up to the greatness we will see when all the godly writers will report on the greats like Grrrr... BTW Mark4, who is all going?
MuLLay</font> |
| #37 Zileas (STARCRACK.MIT.EDU)[17327] |
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Im hardly godly at this game anymore. Except maybe as toss or terran islands...
Keep an eye out for the game im developing, however. I think you guys will like it a lot... It should be announced "pretty soon"
Best,
Zileas
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| #38 Zileas (STARCRACK.MIT.EDU)[17329] |
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Consequently, just as my post-mortem on the game:
Lurkers really are buff. I actually know how to use them somewhat now.
I should expand more as zerg. I should also learn how to hold my expansions as zerg.
Mutas dont work against M&M, even with good skirmishing skills. I had thought I'd be able to use my skirmishing skills to pick apart targets at a time... what works with scouts doesnt work with mutas. oh well.
Lurker drop + muta support at skirmish points wouldve been another thing entirely.
Gassing earlyu and 4 gas is really sick with hydras when you have 2k gas and 300 minerals and a few groups of hydras. 24 lurkers vs an all ground terran isnt really very nice.
I should build queens, since im so good at those types of units, and they shred tanks ;) Plus, ensnare is always good... and lurker hoards will clean up marines..
Zileas
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| #39 Fractal_Wave (proxy1.gvcl1.bc.wave.home.com)[17330] |
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A pleasure to have 'the funky master of protoss air' in NoHunters. And he is right, SC is faar more pwoer-based these days, which depresses me, as I'm a micro whore. Not as good as Zileas, but a micro whore none the less.
Xcellent BR William. A few notes...
-The font could have been a ~dash~ smaller
-Make the text in the "Trick Tank Tactics" and those a little easier to read.
-write more BRs with famous people.
;)
All the best,
Fractal_Wave
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#40  (fjwilson.reshall.uc[17331] |
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| William WC, don't let anyone tell you the font was messed up. And Alliteration is Always Awesome Anytime, Anywhere. |
| #41 LunarSkyz::AE:: (dt0f7na9.san.rr.com)[17332] |
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wow...Zileas...am i supposed to kneel in his presence or something? =P
anyway, its cool to see a master, but i'm here to give support to William on an excellent report! Bravo! A fun read with cool pics and integrated comedy. Well worth the time. (inspired a fun comments section too! =P)
Anyway, nice report!
cy'all on Bnet!
LunarSkyz::AE:: |
| #42 JPaikman (huru59.wuh.wustl.edu)[17334] |
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Point 1 - To MrFurious and all others - i'm an idiot - i was looking at the I and not the L - forgive my incompetence folks.
Point 2 - Thanks all to Zileas for playing a pubbie game with us - the opportunity to BR and play you is tremendous.
We, obviously, learned a lot.
Point 3 - I suck - will I ever own anyone? Who knows!
Yours truly,
JPaikman
aka ObiWanJebroni
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| #43 WilliamWC3 (huru27.wuh.wustl.edu)[17343] |
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Well the comments have seemed to slack off finally so I'll add my input again. First of all thankyou very very much to Zileas for playing my roomate and allowing me to watch. It was great fun and a good game. Also thanks for commenting and ending the nonsense.
As to my fonts, unfortunately html does not allow you to
specify the exact font size (atleast not the little html
I actually know). The next smaller size looked about
twice as hard to read in this font. Maybe I should just
stick with standard fonts (though <font face="Phyllis Italic">Phyllis Italic</font> owns you all). As to the
titles like I said I should have made them easier to read.
I could have dropped a shadow or made the background pics
like 50% transparent. I was really tired and not thinking.
(this game did happen last night by the way) Anyway I would
tell you all to go to hell but I commented on Niki and Celedors use of bright blue on black so I guess these comments really do come back to bite you in the ass.
Anyway keep commenting. Tips are always welcome, as is praise. Thankyou all.
-WC3 |
| #44 DFA (spider-wo034.proxy.aol.com)[17351] |
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Finally out of work...Ok wow lots o comments already, But This was a huge step up from your last report wc3, on a great game. And to all the squabble, dammit zileas, can't you enjoy a little fun before you post and correct everyone!! heh..lataz
Once again since very little credit when to the report, Great Job
DFA |
| #45 heman888 (spider-wg034.proxy.aol.com)[17353] |
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that was the greatest report eveer
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| #46 KungFuFighter (WLA15-22.WLA.Access1.net)[17366] |
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Zileas? what? oh well....
Everybody wants KungFu Fighting! |
| #47 Von Doom (194.218.16.3)[17372] |
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WTF??
This BR needs to be re-rated!!
I challange whoever put such a low rate on this!!
U AM ME MAN!! 1VS1!! Just bCuz the fonts were different you dont have to drop its score by 1.3 points!!!
This is as much 10 as the others..
And the joyful comments section should raise the praise further cuz he got so many peeps involved, even Zillyeas..
Oh well...
Now I´m afraid to put my own BR here, since U cant rate!!
SHAME ON YE!!
GO DUCK A FUCK!!!or.. FUCK A DUCK!!
(not ducky though.. he´s sensitive..) |
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Damn if I was a real rater I'd give this a 10. I liked the combination of discussion of tactics and humor. Reverse turbo chobo! GAY! I love it! Weird how age and experience tends to mellow people out a bit. Dare I say Zileas has a bit of humility now? Oh yeah for anyone who mentions my name and associates it with psi raids should know that I personally have been victum to a Zileas psi raid on even though I had 2 tanks and a bunker. It was like his templar was invincable. :( Oh yeah I was in Nohunters and never doubted it was the real Zileas. He was typing too damn fast to be a fake. Speaking of fast typing, some day I would like to get Shock and Zileas into a typing contest and see who would win. I'll never forget the first time I messaged shock. He answered me so fast I thought he had some kind of bot-auto response thing. Hmmm maybe Shock isnt human? Oh well good ass report. I would like to see more.
OK so lets all go reverse turbo chobo!
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| #49 Zileas (STARCRACK.MIT.EDU)[17382] |
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Shock and me are actually advanced artificial intellegences at LCS, the laboratory for computer science at MIT.
Zileas
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| #50 shockwave (exchange1.sensable.com)[17397] |
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Why do you say, "I'LL NEVER FORGET THE TIME I MESSAGED SHOCK"? Tell me about "OH WELL GOOD ASS REPORT." I don't know why "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE."
Heh, just a nerdy joke, for those of you who have heard of the auto-dialogue program, Elisa (sp?). My roommate is always accused of being a bot because he never misses with his railgun, I've always wanted him to respond with statements like, Why do you ask, "ARE YOU A BOT?"
:-).
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| #51 BomberII15 (proxy-server.mamkschools.org)[17399] |
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Great report. Nice to see an old Starcraft great in a game. One question though, why'd it say waiting for Mark4 AND Zileas, maybe I'm missing some kinda joke, but why was that in there? Other then that top-notch report!
Later,
BomberII15 (the Clueless One) |
| #52 expostfacto (acs2.byu.edu)[17402] |
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That's "Eliza" -- "M-x doctor" for those of us lucky enough to use emacs. :)
-ex |
| #53 pickle (spider-wm045.proxy.aol.com)[17419] |
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| I liked the report and I liked the font, I'm just curious as to why Mark4 was on the "Waiting for players" tab, too :) |
| #54 <font color="#FF0000">Twip</font><font color="#452622"><!-- meow foobar nut -->[17429] |
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<font color="#FF0000" size="2" face="Arial">YaaaY, gj!! I'm a Zileas groupie LOL
Oh yeah. I liked the report too :P |
| #55 <font color="#FF0000">Twip</font><font color="#452622"><!-- meow foobar nut -->[17436] |
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| <font color="#FF0000" size="2" face="Arial">I want to see a BR of your dog chasing a rabid spider monkey around your yard. |
| #56 WilliamWC3 (huru27.wuh.wustl.edu)[17509] |
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Pickle and BomberII15: I played in a game with Mark4 about 12 hours before and his ISP broke down causing him to disc. I had the screenshot of it in my folder when I was doing the report so I decided to put it to good use. I know it just creates confusion but I like confusion. Chaos is good.
Von Doom: Thanks man. I doubt telling the raters to go fuck a duck is going to help my rating any but since then I did get my first 10 (shiny white thing, my very first. My mother would be so proud) so once again thanks for the support.
KungFuFighter: those kids were fast as lightening
Twip: Your wish is my command (though I fear the rabid spider monkey would be chasing my dog around the yard)
Everyone else: Thankyou very much. I live for the comments.
56 including this one! Woohoo. Well I guess this wraps it up until my next report anyway.
-WC3
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| #57 FOS`Entaro`FOS (nova.singnet.com.sg)[17537] |
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I wonder why didn't YRM comment this...
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| #58 FOS`Entaro`FOS (galaxy.singnet.com.sg)[17540] |
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HERE’S HIS PROFILE…
Other nicknames:
ExecutorZileas, CommanderZileas, Pimpy!, Stimmed_Zealot
Real Name: Tom Cadwell
Date of Birth: 1979
Place of birth: St. Louis, MO, USA
City and Country currently living in: Boston, MA, USA
Other countries visited, lived in: Korea (lived 2 years). "I've been all over the world."
Occupation: Student
Languages: English
Hobbies: "I am currently writing a big design for an RTS in an attempt to get a summer internship in game development. "
Life and career goals: "I want to have my own RTS some day, and my own game development studio. Maybe in 10 years you'll be playing my game."
Preferred Race: Protoss
Preferred Map(s): Any Islands
Clan(s) belonged to past and present:
Imports, Clan Zero, Clan ~Dragon~
SC and Brood War acheivements: Won Brood War Beta, Voted #1 Protoss of All time on Gamers.com, Highly acclaimed strategy guide. Note: Zileas was a top Protoss player at a time when most top B.net ladder players played Zerg. At this time cannons only did 50% damage against mutalisks.
SC and BW goals: "Not play so I pass my classes.
Race Imbalances: "Sure. Terran own zerg in all circumstances, Protoss own terran in most circumstances (except small land, then terran own protoss), Zerg own protoss on very large maps."
Arch-Nemisis: Maynard. I have a strong style conflict with him. I can beat lots of people that beat him, but I cant beat him. Its weird. I have trouble against pure old school, but do ok vs mixed school. Mixed school seems to do well vs pure old school. Odd Odd.
Other players respected: "Endless list. I also have a long list of people I dont respect :P"
Well known SC players personally met: Xaanix
Best Brood War player currently: "No idea. Depends on the situation. Generally Grrr... but I dont respect him for some reasons we wont get in to. Current players generally suck in my experience. The old guys all left and they were way better. Grrr was one of the old guys."
Best player of all time: "No answer to this question. Style conflicts and race preferences and imbalances blur any possible resolution of this. The most analytical player I know is either maynard of visage, and the most creative-on-a-spur player is stratus.
Most honourable player of all time: Me? Katz? Lots of people. Agent911?
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| #59 FOS`Entaro`FOS (galaxy.singnet.com.sg)[17556] |
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HERE'S ANOTHER PROFILE OF HIM!
Real Name: Tom Cadwell
Handles: Zileas, ExecutorZileas
Team Affiliation: Clan Zero (and now bnet :P)
Hometown: Boston, MA
Arch Nemesis: Hellsheir
Preferred Race: Protoss
Favorite Map: Snowbound, Small Islands in General Favorite land map is brushfire.
Games of the Past and Present: Fallout 2, Baldurs Gate, Myth2, SC/BW
Honors/Awards: Won Brood War Beta Tournement, Considered the master of Protoss by many on battle.net and some on kali, but not soso cos he seems to really not like the idea that starcraft can be played with a style other than that of "The Old School."
Birth Place: St. Louis, MO
Age:19
Connection: Full T1
CPU Speed: p-pro 200
Favorite Saying: Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Ball.
Bnet or Kali: Bnet
How I judge a good player: Ability to win in a variety of situations, as well as the ability to work out of a bad situation or an unfair situation. Contrary to Kali belief, making the most money doesn't mean you're the best player. I find it insulting, naive and annoying when people seem to have the attitude time and time again (yes, you soso) that I don't deserve to win a game because I wasn't leading in resources, even if I was leading in efficiency. That's a Warcraft 2 view of the whole thing. This is Starcraft.
In the basest sense, a players skill is a composite of the speed at which they can offer a variety of commands (attacks and economy related), their overall level of awareness and timing, and their knowledge of effective counters (you'd be surprised at how many people that everyone considers masters lack knowledge of important attacks and or counters). I know I have seen this in my own play in the past, and sometimes now. No one is anywhere near a REAL master at this game, but relative to others, there are some masters. I know I am one of these, as are many in this tournament)
Top 5 players: Hellsheir, KGOR, Crexis, Grrrrr..., Me
Occupation: Student
Favorite Player: Blacklizard or Visage
Both of these guys think really hard about the game, and have come up with many of the strategies you see popularly used today. They think through the game really quickly. At least 25% of the details on my strategy page came from Visage critiquing my work as I wrote it (he has access over the MIT server :P). Although neither one is terribly in practice right now, when they are I know they are capable of beating pretty much anyone, including myself and the other top players of the day.
Any Player I would like to meet: Blacklizard (already live down the street from visage)
Fav Music: Any
Fav Artist: None
Old Teams: The Imports, ~Dragon~
Old Teammates: Too many to list
How I got my name: Long story... I used to use Zileas on a MUD.
Personal Story:
I got involved in starcraft because xaanix talked me into it. He was one of my deputies in the MUD clan I was running... Hes quite good as you know and helped me along the way to get good. It's always cool to excell at something. I never had the agility to be good at many sports, nor the desire to play those sports I'm physically well suited for (football), so its a really neat feeling to finally be extremely good at what is basically a sport of what is basically fast thinking and wits.
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| #60 Lemuroo (nor-90-60.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU)[17622] |
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::cough:: stalker:: cough cough:::
moo.
was indeed a good report though.
nice, relaxed, happy graphics. |
#61  (1Cust16.tnt28.tco2[17668] |
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| Nice. |
| #62 <img "/images2/n_fls.gif">[17751] |
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hehe talking about fast typers...
shock actually complimented my typing speed last week. weeeeee! Com Sci major rocks!
For a while I was wondering if I'm just talking too much when I'm like the only one typing there.... mebbe I just type FASTER then u ALL! FAST TYPER OWNS YOUR SOUL!
BTW if that's really the real Zileas, I'd like to thank you for your strats in your site long time ago. My first set of "skills" came from the 1.03 reaver drop + templars psi-raid. My playing will definitely be very different without your site. =]
BTW, it's still possible that it isn't the real Zileas. I can fake that address like below too. =[] |
| #63 Zileas (STARCRACK.MIT.EDU)[17752] |
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| see? |
| #64 FOS`Entaro`FOS (pulsar.singnet.com.sg)[17756] |
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| Hehehe. Good pessimistic thinking pal. |
| #65 Phelsior (spock.ti.telenor.net)[17759] |
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Now that the Zileas-issue is cleared up, I'd like to congratulate William WC3 on a report well-done!
It seemed like you had eyes everywhere. (clapclap)
But since we're into the name-identifying-mood, I'm just curious: Who is the Shockwave-fellow Agent911 is talking about in his peon of the month on "I can't Win"?
I know its a while back, but I always assumed this Shockwave can't be our Shock 'cause he swears! :)
Are you schizo, Shock, or did someone "steal" your famous nick aswell?
PS. Which company does Zileas work for? (Curious to his upcoming game) |
| #66 FOS`Entaro`FOS (pulsar.singnet.com.sg)[17760] |
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| Geez, you never took a glimpse at the two profiles I gave. |
| #67 UltraliskDrop (mail.novalibra.com)[17834] |
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| I've played Zileas twice, and he owned me both times. If thats not Zileas, hes just some other famous player. What i think happened according to the name was some one took it in a split, used it until he couldnt take the humiliation from everyone screaming "Your no Zileas, your just a poser!!!". Then one day, the real Zileas just tried getting that account back, and succeded. That is what i think happened. |
| #68 UltraliskDrop (mail.novalibra.com)[17835] |
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| BTW- the site at Novalibra.com was done for a school project if anyone has gone there (i doubt it) |
| #69 UltraliskDrop (mail.novalibra.com)[17837] |
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| BTW- the site at Novalibra.com was done for a school project if anyone has gone there (i doubt it) |
| #70 -TOOL- (spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com)[18014] |
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| sorry this came late...by now no one will read this msg...oh well. I just wrote this becuase i waas caught off guard trying to give zileas "oral sex" in nohunters...This was a joke guys. And god damn it, dont save and record all the gay crap i type in public channels. Thats not me talking thats the Gay.Bot2000...teeheee [im a loser 8(]. Well...its late...and i have to go or skip school tommorrow...and damn it, zileas if you read this, this was sent AFTER the 2v2 vs you in which i ::cough:: WON ::cough:: and i want to publicly chalenge a 1v1 out of you...BAH! Well...enough said. And sorry to the kid whom i made a good ladder 30 minutes longer by turtleing on the island on temple for my own amusment. It was funny through my eyes but the kid kept calling me a F*ing A-hole...anyway g'night. |
| #71 [5TH]Excalibur (216-164-251-207.s461.tnt3.atn.pa.dialup.rcn.com)[19733] |
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| gg all of you, and a great battle report... |
| #72 [5TH]Excalibur (216-164-251-207.s461.tnt3.atn.pa.dialup.rcn.com)[19734] |
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gg all of you, and a great battle report...
two things..
- what was the game speed?
- game speed does tend to affect the way people play, i personally think ladder should be game speed faster... |
| #73 TZ[38149] |
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The 1100 newbie had a chance becouse of the simple reason :
the reporter had observer mode in the same room .
Try rereading the report and see for yourself that "he started building and he scanned/found it with scv" thing appears way too many times .
Have a nice day
TZ |
| #74 [51300] |
| m4bhSs1n176.midsouth.rr.com |
| guess it didn't work... |
| #75 BackStabingLiar[54398] |
| 63.239.42.130 |
| alliteration is the shit |
| #76 blah[56479] |
| cx619019-b.msnv1.occa.home.com |
| JPaikman you are retard for believing you beat the number 1 player in sc, anyone can read a survey. and the imposter zileas stop trying to pretend you are the real one, it would be better if you never talked again, hey maybe next time you ll pretend to be agent911 and lose again to your i haven't played for 3 month reason again, asstard |
| #77 a[71942] |
| pool-63.49.192.152.troy.grid.net |
| a |
#78  [73462] |
| HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU |
you are a fool
it was the real Zileas. He approve of this on ICQ. |
| #79 Zileas[93873] |
| ppp-05-1-29.dialip.rit.edu |
It was me. (but this isn't...)
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| #80 Furious[113856] |
| bal-ts3-2500.tpgi.com.au |
| Nice........ |
| #81 star[113878] |
| cs666873-61.austin.rr.com |
| more old school please ~~! |
| #82 GUY[114169] |
| 1Cust170.tnt1.mel1.da.uu.net |
UM DICKHEADS its ExecutorZileas
NOT Zileas or ZLleas |
| #83 Mattkid[114188] |
| 00-01-03-1a-b0-62.bconnected.net |
| if they typed /stats Zileas and it came up 6-0-1 then i'm going to have to say it was the real Zileas :-) |
| #84 ZerG~LinG[114821] |
| p421-076.ppp.get2net.dk |
| Muhahahahah Another Last on a WC3 br :) |
| #85 RockForce[120220] |
| spider-wm022.proxy.aol.com |
| Hmmm...you sure bout that? |
| #86 ZerG~LinG[120243] |
| p418-120.ppp.get2net.dk |
| RockForce, i own you |
| #87 JPaikman[128869] |
| 138.26.155.35 |
"JPaikman you are retard"
I happen to agree with this :-) |
| #88 ScotTt[138597] |
| warp142163179128.newtel.com |
21049234 years later.....
LAST!
02/04/03
Bye,
Me |
| #89 I_am_Nitros[152014] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| Stupid Newbs. GG |
| #90 Zilkin[158652] |
| bbcache-116.singnet.com.sg |
| Blah, brother didnt play SC much after those tournaments tho, why ya all talking much about imposters and the real guy that i live with ? |
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